@MultoGhost Thank you for the link to the article. Part of what's so interesting about it for me is the way some of the teachers quoted, especially those who caution against too much of what New Dorp is doing, seem to see things as either or. It is, in my experience anyway, endemic to the way too many people thinkg about education in the States. I was, on my campus, part of what was called the Active Learning project, which was an effort to bring a student-centered, experiential instruction into the college classroom. I was surprised at how hostile some of the organizers were to the possibility that a really well-delivered lecture could be, on its own terms, just as educational as a well-constructed active-learning lesson.